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So the question becomes if a win doesn’t offset a loss then what offsets a seven game losing streak? 14 wins in a row would be 2 to 1 against but I don’t think we’ve ever done that.

I would also like to know what Coach Grobe would like the fans to do. We can’t play. We’ve got no reason to get pumped up. He hasn’t given us any hope of winning at NCSU. Can he please tell us something to at least give us hope for the future?

I’ll still be cheering for us whatever happens, but it gets harder and harder to get excited.

I still say if Boise State can be an annual mainstay at the top of the charts then Wake Forest can do it too.

Lee Jackson on 11/11/2010 (6:02 pm)

I thought this comment was quite telling in the article…. “The thing is, we’re just trying to stay steady. We’re not changing. Our coaches aren’t changing.”

So let me get this right, our defense is non-existant in most cases, our offense can’t score any more, Tanner throws bullets to wide open DEFENSIVE players, and yet our coaches aren’t doing anything to change.  No new schemes.  No new anything.  No teaching a QB how to lob the ball over a defensive player’s head.  Just the same side to side plays for no gain and DB’s who still don’t know how to defend the pass.  Way to go guys.  At this pace, we might be lucky to have 10,000 people in the stadium against Clemson, and many will be wearing orange.

Dano on 11/11/2010 (3:15 pm)

Danny C,

Well what you suggest cetainly won’t hurt.  I do think energetic supporters in the stadium have some positive effect.  We have played less miserably at home this year than on the road and if we had more people wearing black and gold and screaming, I bet we would play even more less miserably.  And if that doesn’t help, how about a full stadium booing?  Nothing could be worse than a few people hanging around talking on their cell phones during our third down attempts.  Watch how the Wufpckrs do it on Sat.  They’ll be screaming their overalls off.

DannyB on 11/10/2010 (10:54 pm)

Danny,

That attitude has been prevalent among Wake fandom for basketball and football and it is flat pathetic.  If the fans could win a game, give them a scholarship.

It is ridiculously narcissistic if not psychotic to believe that what people other than the actual competitors on the field do makes a difference to the outcome of the game.

Winners win when nobody is watching or if the whole world is watching.  YOU left before the final bell.  I’d have liked the BC game infinitely better if I didn’t get there in time to watch the first play from scrimmage where our wonderboy protege showed his chops by throwing (er, chucking) the ball to a guy he’s never practiced with.

The problem isn’t in the stands.  The problem is the product on the field.  Wake has been so embarrassed this year Wake Forest should be thankful if the parents of the players show up to watch the garbage they call ‘football’.  NOW is NOT the time to call out Wake fans.

BrianT on 11/10/2010 (6:28 pm)

A comment about the question about what we fans can do to help the team. The answer is simple. Get in the stadium early and stay well after the game is decided.

At the game against BC, I observed that the stadium did not seem to start filling up until well after the opening kickoff.  This seems to be a common situation at most of our home games, but it was very noticeable last Saturday. 

Then by the end of the third quarter I would estimate that only a third of the fans were left.  When the game’s outcome was decided with about 2 minutes on the clock I left. I walked to the car and within a few minutes I was on the main highway headed for home.  It was the easiest exit I have ever had leaving one of our games.

If we expect the team and the coaching staff to give their all then we fans must do the same.

So for the last home game all Wake fans need to get there early and stay until after the game is decided.  And finally during the game continually cheer for the team as if your hair was on fire! Go Deacs!

Danny Crews on 11/10/2010 (9:36 am)

Dan:

So sorry the Deacs are struggling this year.  When our son was playing, we wanted to beat Florida St.—just once.  Now you are Orange Bowl veterans.  Amazing!

I wanted to thank you for all the kind words you penned when James was a player.  God continue to bless you and keep you!

James MacPherson (Dad) on 11/10/2010 (12:23 am)

Our talent is fine.  We stopped having success when we decided to ‘change the system to fit the players’.  Put these players into the system of 2006 and we’ll stop getting embarrassed.  I don’t mind losing, but getting blown out shouldn’t happen.  If you don’t play, you won’t lose.  If I hated losing, I wouldn’t play. You should play because winning is like crack, and players should want to do anything for it.

BrianT on 11/09/2010 (10:53 pm)

nice coach speak.
I was there when he balked on the Arkansas job. i was there when he said he didnt care if we win or lose because he has a 10 year contract. This talk about love for players is ridiculous. people need to stop buying into it and realize its as good as it will get. aaron curry and steve vallos arent walking through that door anytime soon.

j. d. on 11/09/2010 (9:50 pm)

I must be different because I love sports for the thrill of winning.  Losing doesn’t bother me because you should learn from losing.  When you have down seasons, each win is that much more appreciated.  If you win all but 2 or 3, you can’t enjoy the wins, and that’s sad.

Our talent is fine (except the physics associated with a small D line).  We stopped having success when we decided to ‘change the system to fit the players’.  Put these players into the system of 2006 and we’ll stop getting embarrassed.  I don’t mind losing, but if you are just going to get embarrassed, maybe you should just watch instead of play.  If you don’t play, you won’t lose.  If I hated losing, I wouldn’t play. . . I play because winning is like crack, and I’ll do anything for it.

Brian T on 11/09/2010 (9:23 pm)

I think the absolute most fundamental test of how good a coach is can be based on the answer to this question: Would you want your son or your daughter to play for them. As the parent of a fromer NCAA athelte, I can tell you that the attitude expressed in those words is exactly the type of person you want your child to learn from—both life lessons and the sport! God bless caoch Grobe!

steve h on 11/09/2010 (3:54 pm)

Dan, please ask Coach Grobe what us win-starved fans can do to help him pull the program out of the abyss.  None of us like the situation we are in, but complaining isn’t going to help.  I would be interested to know if he thinks there some area where we can provide positive pushing.

DannyB on 11/09/2010 (3:36 pm)